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Stabbities.

  • Apr. 26th, 2004 at 9:45 AM
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As the weather briefly turned warmer this past week, I began rummaging through my summer clothing in an attempt to find something that would not bake in the sun. Instead, I found one skirt I cannot wear to work and four pair of shorts that literally fall off my hips if I try to move in them. Thus it was time for Clothes Shopping.

I hate clothes shopping. Having the sweetest boi ever, I always get sincere offers to go with me and brighten my mood, but this offer is always declined. I know it would end in heartbreak, you see. I know that if I'm looking for anything other than a snarky t-shirt or yet another identical pair of the only jeans that fit me, it will go one of two ways, each well-described as "badly". And I know I am completely insufferable no matter which way it goes.


It goes "Hunting", or "Gathering".

When I already know what I'm looking for, it will not be available in a size that fits me. I will march into the store where I most expect to find it, head directly to where it would be, were it to exist, and throw my hands in the air when I see nothing like it in a reasonable size. I then proceed to the clearance rack and do the same thing. Next, I declare the mission a failure and march my way to the next most promising location, slightly miffed. This repeats, escalating until several of the following are true: my feet hurt; everything is closed; I am out of reasonably promising locations to search and I have marched through too many scary girly teen-centered mall boutiques that occasionally have what I'm looking for hidden in the Seekret Goth Section. If I am lucky, I will have found approximately three items of clothing, one of which is a snarky t-shirt. Note that I have not been looking for a snarky t-shirt. Nearly every scary girly teen-centered mall boutique, by the way, has a Seekret Goth Section. From floor-length black lace skirts to leather bodices with extraneous metal bits to rather plain attire in dark colours, these pits of brightly-lit pink evil hide the niftiest things. All they cost is twice what you want to pay for them and your pride.

When I don't know what I'm looking for, I wander all the same places in a slow daze, occasionally trying on the most absurd and pink things in an attempt to make myself laugh. I will wander aimlessly into departments that have absolutely nothing to do with what I am looking for. Barring a miracle, I will wind up with a snarky t-shirt and a token item of miscellaneous hardware, from camping gear to computer parts to power tools. I will then get home after everything is closed, my feet hurt, I am out of reasonable locations to find just about anything, etc, and I will complain that I (and read this in a very whiny annoying girly voice) still don't have anything to weaaaar. But I will have hardware, so I will feel better.

In either case, I usually find something on my travels that will annoy me beyond the general observation that current clothing trends are hideous and sizes are arbitrary, irregular, and lie to make you feel better or worse about yourself dependent on the price markup at your current shopping location. I will either make annoyed commentary or seethe quietly as it sinks into my head just how offensive I find this occurance when viewed in cultural context. This time it was a tag on some business attire at Express. It told a little story in pink letters. The middle of it read "because I have to look sexy AND professional".

Things like this are probably why I wind up with random hardware. It runs through my head whilst I continue shopping. "Have to", I mutter. "Sexy AND professional." This weekend, I bought a black skirt I couldn't possibly wear to work, a small black mens' tank top, new batteries for my Maglite, and a camping fork. Sexy and professional, eat four D-cells. Corporate America, I stab you with a camping fork. Stabbities. Stabbities, Stabbities, and I still don't have anything to weaaaar.

Comments

[info]helen99 wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 08:39 am (UTC)
Recently I tried to find a plain, no-insignia, grey, semi-scoopnecked, babydoll top that fit. Sounds very simple, but the above just about describes my efforts. I still haven't found it. I will, though. Long after I have ceased caring about finding it (or even remembering that I once wanted to find it), there it will be.
[info]dancinglights wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:36 am (UTC)
If the Tag of Stabbities does not offend too much, try an Express? I think I saw a few such things there. Not sure of the fit, but I'm a medium in their branded stuff.
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 11:00 am (UTC)
Such empathy, and I often like shopping. But shopping when there's one particular thing that you have to get is a lot more horrible. I'm about to resort to doing what we did for Cull, just taking my own measurements, and getting custom-cut black jeans at Land's End. (I need three pairs of jeans and three pairs of shorts; all my jeans are on their last legs and I have no shorts whatsoever.)

The most recent Last Straw for me was going into bebe with Jalen, having the staff coo over her (gorgeous, 5'9"ish, busty and slender-hipped, probably a 6 or an 8) and ask her to model for them, and having them tell me (pretty, 5'8 1/2", athletic and curvy-hipped, a 6/8 in shirts and a 10/12 in pants) that I was fat and if I just dropped 15 pounds maybe I'd be able to fit into more of their stuff. Seethe, seethe, kill. We hates them forever, precious, yessssss.

I particularly enjoy "All they cost is twice what you want to pay for them and your pride." Usually I end up with a snarky t-shirt and a book.
[info]dancinglights wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 02:45 pm (UTC)
death death seeeeethe indeed. Wow, I'm glad that's not one of the ones I swallow my pride to shop in. I tend to get funny glances until I mention I'm looking for work clothes, but neither oohing or stomp-inducing bitchiness.

So far I've been lucky on the jeans; the ones that fit are $15 crappy Walmart ones. Go figure.
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:45 pm (UTC)
Express fit me for a while, and then cruelly changed their cut for no reason. I haven't been able to find any jeans that fit properly in five years at least, and the best-fitting ones all have horrible bell-bottoms. (Hence the always tucking jeans into boots.) So, Land's End it is, next paycheck.
[info]y2kdragon wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 07:12 pm (UTC)
*blink blink*

If the 'children' in that store think you are fat, then maybe someone needs to take them out, sit them down, and tell them that bulemia is not a diet program...then shove a few double cheeseburgers down their throats.
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:46 pm (UTC)
Did I ever tell you about the summer I spent modeling? I was the only one that really ate... other than me, it was "small salad and a water" all around. Disgusting (that their body images were so warped that they felt they had to do that -- I do like salad) and very unhealthy.
[info]several_bees wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 08:13 pm (UTC)
Not a very recent last straw, then, given that you were complaining about it on the first day of my America-visiting, eighteen months or so ago. It still seems extremely odd, mind - surely that's a horribly counterproductive way to try to sell clothes. Certainly I've never, ever had a shop assistant be rude about my appearance, and I must be tending to slightly larger than you (I can't think in American sizes, and in any case my clothes that fit span something like five clothes sizes depending on where they're from, but I'm generally a 12 or occasionally 14 in Australian, which, aha, a random conversion table suggests is an American 10 or occasionally 12). I suppose it makes sense if it was a Shop for Bitchy Teenagers, or something.

I quite enjoy random browsy shopping, on occasion, but I've been putting off some clothes- and shoe- shopping that I really should get on with for a month or two now - or rather, I've started it, on a couple of occasions, and then stopped half an hour later because I haven't found anything I like yet, and although I wouldn't mind going on, past experience suggests that if I haven't found at least one thing I like in the first half an hour, my judgement about what suits me and what I need will subsequently disintegrate entirely, and I'll either end up with nothing (and then get home later and realise that, tsk, that shirt was nice, fairly cheap, and exactly what I needed), or I'll buy a plain long-sleeved black top (which is just about the only item of clothing that there's no chance whatsoever of my needing more of at any point in the foreseeable future). It's getting to the point where I'm almost willing to take RavenBlack up on his offer to come along, on the grounds that I could then outsource reminders of what I don't need and what doesn't suit me, and finally get it over with, but he would clearly hate it quite a lot, so I continue to resist.

This, on a tangentially related note, is somewhat interesting - a ranty article in Saturday's Guardian that starts off being about the actual (according to the writer, very low) correlation between being overweight (or "overweight") and poor health, and ends up arguing that disgust with the overweight is displaced class hatred and social guilt. I'm not entirely convinced by his conclusions (not unconvinced in particular, just reacting with an "eh, unprovable, surely"), but most of the rest of it lies somewhere between "funny" and "horrifying".
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:52 pm (UTC)
I think that may well have been the last time that I deliberately went clothes shopping for me (as opposed to going to find clothes for others, or being dragged along by Mom, or some such). So it's still recent in my head. And it is sort of a shop for bitchy teenagers... American women's clothes stores come in the following varieties:

1) Shops for Bitchy Teenagers, where the clothes are often pretty but everything is a size 6.
2) Shops for "women's clothing", where it's all designed for 50 year old starchy conservative businesswomen who like taupe.
3) Plus size shops, where everything is a mumu and it's really hard to find anything at all attractive or flattering. (Note: I think the average American woman is "plus size", which makes this extra annoying. I've shopped in plus size shops and found things that fit me that said they were "large". In some of the places, it's "anorexic" or "plus size", and that's it.)
[info]several_bees wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 10:26 pm (UTC)
That's insane. Adelaide plus-size clothes shops have clothes that will fit me either at their "small" end, or not at all. I'm a bit irked by the fact that they now quite often have fairly nice things, mind - where were these pretty size 20 dresses when I needed them, and all I could find were giant shirts with pink hibiscuses on them, hm?

"Standard" sizes here run from 6 or 8, depending on the shop, to 12/14 in the places where assistants will ask if you need any help and 16/18 everywhere else. I suppose there might be some Bitchy Teenager Shops that don't go over ten, but if there are they're the ones that sell pastel crop-tops and sequined mini-skirts and not much else, so I've never looked. (I've also, to be fair, never looked in the sort of shops that charge $350 for a scarf and that are always unnervingly empty, which for all I know stop at size 4).
[info]several_bees wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 08:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, and more on the "horrifying" note - this. Some cosmetics company started an ad campaign using women who (judging from the company's pictures) were basically normal sized - most of them not, I would guess, technically overweight even by the BMI definition, and the exception still looking healthily proportioned - with the tag line "tested on real curves". The response? A campaign to adorn the posters with stickers reading "FAT ISN'T GLAMOROUS", "DOVE: FOR FAT BIRDS", "SELLING OBESITY BY THE POUND" and "WHO ATE ALL THE PIES?"

Someone suggested that if you've spent all your life desperately trying to weigh as little as possible, the sight of normal-sized people portrayed as attractive (or, for that matter, trying to wear Clothes For Special People Like You, which might also explain the idiot shop assistants) will provoke a sort of furious denial - "I've spent the last six years dieting and it was horrible, so anyone who's not as thin as me CAN'T BE PRETTY, or WHAT WAS THE POINT?" - which seems a vaguely plausible motivation. But still. Agh.
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:54 pm (UTC)
Argh, argh, argh. I can virtually guarantee that the people who put up those "fat isn't glamorous" stickers were male, and wouldn't win any attractiveness awards based on their appearance. That sort of thing just brings out the punching reflex. I have a sudden sympathy for the Texas "he needed punching" justification.
[info]quen_elf wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 02:06 pm (UTC)
Great post. I had to quote the 'All they cost is twice what you want to pay for them and your pride' paragraph to people on irc, excellent. :)

And at least you're female and they do therefore make clothes for you that aren't ugly (and aren't snarky t-shirts), even if they're expensive and it's a huge challenge to find the right ones. :>
[info]dancinglights wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 02:32 pm (UTC)
thanks
Pod Observation:

"Men's clothing is ugly. Women's clothing is uncomfortable. Nobody wins."
[info]illuviel wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 07:08 pm (UTC)
Men's Clothes / Women's Clothes
And the women's clothes will fall apart if you look at them sideways directly after taking the tags off while the men's will still be holding together, threadbare fabric welded indestructibly at the seams, three weeks from next Doomsday.
[info]illuviel wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 07:09 pm (UTC)
You oh so have my sympathy shopping as you have described very similar circumstances to my shopping trips, though I never think to come home with snarky t shirts (I rarely wear 'em because the cut is entirely unflattering on me), gadgetry or books and just come home in a stompy whiny fit with nothing, or with whatever absurdity of size, color or cut my hand fell nearest to when I declared myself Done cos I had to come home with Something.

I can find so little that actually fits me that I only go shopping for clothes under duress or at dire, emergency need.

(F'rexample, the last time I bought pants was two summers ago, on the way up to Thresholds, cos I had accidentally left my suitcase at home and hadn't noticed until Virginia and needed something to wear besides the outfit I drove up in.)

I used to do a lot of thrift shopping, cos I knew I wouldn't find things in my size and could just buy what looked fun (I wore a lot of modified men's shirts or vintage brocade sheath dresses for a time. That was fun). I could return to that and/or re-take up sewing. Then I'd only have myself to blame when things were unflattering and ill-fitting. ;>
[info]dancinglights wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 08:05 pm (UTC)
snarky t shirts (I rarely wear 'em because the cut is entirely unflattering on me)

It's all about the babydoll ones for me. Personally, I think standard t-shirts look unflattering on just about anyone female, and a large portion of the male population as well.

I need a sewing machine that doesn't suck, so I can pretend I'll eventually go through the piles of spare fabric (most of which is scrap-salvageable womens' clothing) and make something of it with my mostly-finished costume-centred theatre degree. Hah.
[info]thewronghands wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 09:01 pm (UTC)
Hah -- I have a small pile of beloved dead pieces of clothing that I keep meaning to make a patchwork something out of, and never do. But I can't bring myself to get rid of the beloved dead.

Also, I share your opinion of T-shirts, both babydoll and otherwise.
[info]shadowmorphic wrote:
Apr. 26th, 2004 11:09 pm (UTC)
*looks over* and I thought it was just me. My clothing collection keeps shrinking, but I have most screwdriver sizes and shapes.

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